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	<title>Comments on: Vancouver politics and the death of a great idea</title>
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		<title>By: roberb7</title>
		<link>http://natnotes.com/2008/04/15/vancouver-politics-and-the-death-of-a-great-idea/#comment-849</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 18:58:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"UBC Baseball could slide right in there during the spring, thus giving the team an NCAA-worthy ballpark."

Not going to happen. The UBC people are adamant about having a ballpark on Point Grey, for several good reasons. The main one has to do with time: when they have to go to a game or practice at The Nat, it ends up taking a huge chunk out of the day. This, of course, would be the case for a waterfront ballpark, too.

In case you haven't heard, the U. of Oregon is (with Phil Knight's money) putting up a ballpark in Eugene that will also be used by the Emeralds. If you could figure out a way to locate a AAA-class ballpark in Point Grey...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;UBC Baseball could slide right in there during the spring, thus giving the team an NCAA-worthy ballpark.&#8221;</p>
<p>Not going to happen. The UBC people are adamant about having a ballpark on Point Grey, for several good reasons. The main one has to do with time: when they have to go to a game or practice at The Nat, it ends up taking a huge chunk out of the day. This, of course, would be the case for a waterfront ballpark, too.</p>
<p>In case you haven&#8217;t heard, the U. of Oregon is (with Phil Knight&#8217;s money) putting up a ballpark in Eugene that will also be used by the Emeralds. If you could figure out a way to locate a AAA-class ballpark in Point Grey&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Oz</title>
		<link>http://natnotes.com/2008/04/15/vancouver-politics-and-the-death-of-a-great-idea/#comment-848</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 06:15:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Bob,
I believe so. Three reasons: 
1) A lot of land down there (the land with nothing on it) is going to be used for Olympic Village housing. 

2) Build anything around the railway station and you're going to have to do a whole lot of environmental clean-up - and I don't just mean the the Cobalt Hotel crowd.

3) What isn't already developed, as I hear it, is actually land that is claimed by native folks of various description, which is why so much land around Granville Island is industrial, even though it'd be worth a fortune to develop. 

That's why the Caps are so keen to build on the other side of the waterfront - no native claims, nobody to kick out, and though it's an environmental nightmare around the railyards at Waterfront Station, they wouldn't necessarily have to dig into it to lay a stadium down.

In all honesty, I think a combined baseball/soccer stadium makes a lot of sense. Just make the seats at one section of the stadium movable (a la BC Place), and you'd have a AAA-ready ballpark, right where people get off work by the thousands, right on numerous transit lines - and UBC Baseball could slide right in there during the spring, thus giving the team an NCAA-worthy ballpark.

The NIMBYs can keep a soccer team at bay for years, but can they keep baseball (and the very politically-connected UBC crowd) at bay as well?
I doubt it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Bob,<br />
I believe so. Three reasons:<br />
1) A lot of land down there (the land with nothing on it) is going to be used for Olympic Village housing. </p>
<p>2) Build anything around the railway station and you&#8217;re going to have to do a whole lot of environmental clean-up - and I don&#8217;t just mean the the Cobalt Hotel crowd.</p>
<p>3) What isn&#8217;t already developed, as I hear it, is actually land that is claimed by native folks of various description, which is why so much land around Granville Island is industrial, even though it&#8217;d be worth a fortune to develop. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s why the Caps are so keen to build on the other side of the waterfront - no native claims, nobody to kick out, and though it&#8217;s an environmental nightmare around the railyards at Waterfront Station, they wouldn&#8217;t necessarily have to dig into it to lay a stadium down.</p>
<p>In all honesty, I think a combined baseball/soccer stadium makes a lot of sense. Just make the seats at one section of the stadium movable (a la BC Place), and you&#8217;d have a AAA-ready ballpark, right where people get off work by the thousands, right on numerous transit lines - and UBC Baseball could slide right in there during the spring, thus giving the team an NCAA-worthy ballpark.</p>
<p>The NIMBYs can keep a soccer team at bay for years, but can they keep baseball (and the very politically-connected UBC crowd) at bay as well?<br />
I doubt it.</p>
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		<title>By: roberb7</title>
		<link>http://natnotes.com/2008/04/15/vancouver-politics-and-the-death-of-a-great-idea/#comment-847</link>
		<dc:creator>roberb7</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 00:53:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oz, I've thought for years that the Pacific Central Station location made the most sense. Is this idea totally dead? If so, why?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oz, I&#8217;ve thought for years that the Pacific Central Station location made the most sense. Is this idea totally dead? If so, why?</p>
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