The subject line above is apparently the only thing you’re allowed to write about former A’s minor league toiler Mark Kiger, or else his wife, a former Kits girl who calls herself "Bedhead Barbie", will post obscenities about you on her MySpace page.
Ah, where to begin this tale of joy?
Well, let’s start by warning those with tender constitutions that some of the language gets a bit raunchy below, and though that’s not my choice, it is necessary to keep it uncensored. So if you don’t want to deal with that, or the inherent trashiness of a public internet feud, I’d suggest skipping to the next post.
Otherwise, click the ‘more’ link and watch what happens when you start a fight you’re ill-equipped to finish.
Let’s skip back to the beginning of what will forever more be known as KigerGate, where I made mention of the fact that Mark Kiger had been let go by the A’s. If you read the piece, you’ll actually note that, while I’m not crying about his departure, I’m also pretty respectful to the guy:
Here’s hoping another organization takes a chance on a talented guy who knows how to catch a ball.
Kiger’s wife then kicks in, posting a comment that he wasn’t ‘let go’, but decided instead to walk:
Your story is incorrect. Mark was not “axed†by the A’s to make room
for rule 5 players. Mark was not satisfied with the broken promises
made many times to him by the Oakland A’s and the fact that the day
that the 40 man roster was to be finalized, he was pulled off the
roster and sent back to AA Midland again, therefore, Mark ASKED for his
release to see if he could find a club that could help further his
career. So he left on his own accord! and was quickly picked-up by the
Mets organization.Further more, Oakland was going to attempt to “non-tender†him so they
could re-sign him and he was offered good money to return to Oakland
for 2007 season. he was never unemployed. and many teams showed
interest and still do to this day.
Okay, fair enough, but it’s not like it changes the story any - he was here, then he was gone, and now he’s with the Mets. Whether he got there by choice, or whether he was bound with ropes, rolled up in 25 feet of carpet, and flown to New York against his will, he’s not an Athletic anymore, and that was the news I was trying to relay to any A’s fan who might have happened to be on the "Mark Kiger will one day save us all" bandwagon.
So, anyway, I reply saying as much:
I’ve no reason to doubt a player’s wife when she says a player asked
for a release, but then perhaps said player’s wife should understand
that those of us who don’t live in the Kiger household only see the
words "Oakland releases Mark Kiger" - we don’t get a backstory from the
team, and we don’t get one from the player.And, really, does it
matter whether the player asked to be let go or not? The fact of the
matter is, Oakland didn’t want him enough to keep him around on the
40-man roster, and he didn’t trust Oakland enough to start 2007 in AA
ball and take his chances that he would be moved up soon.The
funny thing is, perhaps if he’d stuck around another season, he might
have joined Travis Buck, Dallas Braden and Danny Putnam as AA players
who have since been added to the Oakland Major League roster, instead
of toiling in AA ball for the Mets.
Now, if you’re playing at home, you’d likely call that the "end of the story", because pro ballplayers not named Nuke Laloosh are usually smart enough to know that A) they can’t control what is said on every blog on the planet, and B) it’s kind of unprofessional for a ballplayer (or his close kin) to start a public war over, really, a blog post that isn’t sufficiently fawning.
But apparently Mark Kiger isn’t clued in to that just yet, so far from this being the end, in fact, it’s just the first commercial break in a very tacky, very unnecessary reality show called My Wife Has a MySpace Page and She’s Gonna Abuse It.
From Bedhead Barbie’s blog:
so i punch in a search for the article and come to find out, the
bastard has posted, not just a response to my comment, but a whole blog
about it…
Wait a second there, Barbie, the ‘whole blog’ is about the Vancouver Canadians. Your hubby got a mere post. I have better things to do than dedicate myself to the career of Mark Kiger. Unlike someone else I could name.
so i started hair flippin’ and pffftttt’ing all over the place which
prompted mark to ask what my problem was…so i showed him (he was
there when i wrote the original comment)……and then mark got the
ASS! (that means he’s mad) and so he made me type a response to this
ass-wipes retort to my comment.here’s our response to the fore mentioned asshole, that we wrote mmmm…….about an hour ago:
Before we get to that response, make particular note of the lingo Barbie likes to use in describing me: bastard, ass, ass-wipes, asshole. Later, she refers to me as a ‘facker‘. Really stretchin’ the vocab.
So let’s recap: I wrote a blog post mentioning Kiger isn’t with the A’s anymore, his wife bitches me out, I shrug, she then goes postal on her MySpace page about me and has her hubby, who really should know that these things never end well, send a comment to my site that is only going to stoke the flames.
this is mark kiger himself, so if you need first hand information, i would be more than happy to fill in the blanks.
Actually, Mark, I don’t need first hand information anymore. You’re a AA player for the Mets, so that kind of ends the interest, but by all means, go on if you feel you need to clear the air.
I read your original blog and i do have to say that if there was any praise in there, than i must have missed it. it sounded more like you were saying my career was over, and that is not praise. It felt like you were trying to belittle me as a professional player.
No Mark, this is me belittling you as a professional player: you’re a 27-year-old AA baller who has only hit one pitch long in 140+ at bats this season, despite playing in a traditionally power-position. In order for you to get to AAA ball, you’ll have to push Fernando Tatis off the Mets’ payroll, and unless David Wright is disemboweled by a pitching machine in a bizarre training mishap, you sure ain’t headed beyond AAA unless you learn how to play right field.
Meanwhile, back in Oakland (the team you walked out on), third baseman Eric Chavez is sitting on the bench and the A’s are starting to ask the question, "Who is going to take over from Eric if he has to be out for an extended period?"
Well, chances are, that would have been you, Mark, if not for the fact that you decided you just couldn’t possibly stand for Oakland to send you back to AA this season. If you hadn’t walked out on the team that invested in your minor league development, you’d have been right in line to be starting for them today in the Majors.
Instead, you stomped out the door - only to end up playing AA ball after all for a team that has two major league stars ahead of you at third base, instead of one. (golf clap)
(Just so you know, THAT is how you belittle a professional player. You should ask your agent about it too, since if he advised you to move away from Oakland, he’s belittled you plenty already.)
i believe the blog in response to my wife’s comment was inconsiderate and unprofessional on your behalf. her comment was not in anger, it was more in correcting your facts. we, however, do NOT like the tone of this recent blog. we believe that YOUR response is out of anger. "toiling around" is not the correct assumtion [sic], i am playing and doing well.
Trust me, the previous response was not out of anger, it was out of incredulity. THIS one is out of anger, and not for nothing, dude, but maybe you should ask your missus about ‘unprofessional’ behavior, because as her blog demonstrates, she has it down to the level of a martial art.
I do enjoy the song choices on her MySpace profile, however - "They’re trying to make me go to rehab/I say no, no, no" - sometimes the punchlines write themselves.
in baseball you need a lot of luck and to be in the right place at the right time. i have more skills then some players in the big leagues, but they’re up in the "Bigs" and I’m not, that’s just the way it is.
Yeah dude, David Wright (who is two years younger than you, natch) is just cruising on reputation at this point, isn’t he? Carlos Delgado - what has HE ever done? Endy who? What sort of name is LoDuca anyway?
I will admit you’re more talented than Chan Ho Park, but honestly, that’s like saying you’re funnier than Carrot Top, and not for nothing, but I kinda doubt you’re going to be welcomed with open arms by anyone at the Mets if you’re going around posting on blogs that you’re better than them.
I mean, seriously guy, WTF?
There was actually trade rumors in the spring about me possibly being traded back to oakland, so for you to write that Oakland didn’t want me, is completely false. I like the organization and i’m still a huge fan of the people in it, i just thought that change might be good for me as a player.
It’s funny that you’re a huge fan of the people in the Oakland organization, because if I can quote your wife on this very blog…:
Mark was not satisfied with the broken promises made many times to him by the Oakland A’s and the fact that the day that the 40 man roster was to be finalized, he was pulled off the roster and sent back to AA Midland again.
Did you mean you’re a big fan of Larry Davis? I can understand that, seeing as how he’s brutalizing all the guys who were in front of you in the system. Maybe you meant you’re a fan of the guy that sells the Churros at the Coliseum - I know I am! And I’m told the clubbie is one heck of a card player - was that the dude you were a fan of?
Mark was not satisfied with the broken promises made many times to him by the Oakland A’s…
But he’s still a big fan of the people who broke those promises. Gotcha.
If your [sic] frustrated with people calling you out on your inaccuracies, than maybe you should pick up a phone and make a call or research the facts. You have the power to reach a lot of people and it’s not fair to your readers to get a "somewhat correct" story.
Oh sure, I’ll just flip through my Rolodex and grab your number… oh wait! You’re not in there! Maybe you’re in the phone book? …Nope.
Oh, I know, I’ll just call the Safeway - they should still have your wife’s contact details, shouldn’t they?
You can have your opinion and i have mine but don’t try to embarrass my wife or me as an athlete.
If you don’t want that door opened, Sparky, tell your wife to quit kicking it in.
And, oh yeah, maybe work on your power hitting.
UPDATE: Lots of comments below, which is nice, but it seems as if Ms Kiger has taken her MySpace page to private, and left a note about how she has "a stalker who likes to write about me!" Aaaw, how cute!
Still, for those who know how to use Google Cache, a disappearing web page is never a problem, so here’s an older version [link removed at Kiger’s request, because he asked nicely] of the page that is at the center of KigerGate, preserved for eternal glory.
UPDATE II: As you’ll read in the comments below, Mark Kiger chimed in, all pissy that I linked to his wife’s website, claiming it was a violation of his family’s privacy because there were pictures of his wife and child there.
Weird, then, that a few weeks later we’d find this story in a Binghamton newspaper, highlighting those same family members with big fat pictures and quotes. How odd!

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Kiger is not worth any comments as he is just a AA infielder no longer in the A’s system at this point in his career. Like Durazo playing in Mexico he chose to go elsewhere and missed his opportunity at a big league job. Fate may factor into his never getting a big league job.
Congratulations Kiger. You married a genius.
For the record, that first blog entry was pretty innocuous, especially for a blog. They could have just left it alone and all would be fine, but no, they had to go and poke the bear.
I guess Kiger will make a great New Yorker.
Wow, “Oz”…
I can’t believe how brave you are: attacking a professional athlete with remarks regarding his abilities, skills, playing history, and not to mention his own family. And all while hiding behind a website which never mentions your own name, contact information, or even any credentials.
When this all started, all the guy’s wife was obviously attempting to do was correct your “crooked” story regarding her husband. If you read through her original comment to you, she never attacked or belittled you in any way. Note: It should be mentioned here that the ONLY way she had of contacting you was through a comment to your original blog as no email or other contact info is posted by you for any of your readers.
REAL brave, dude.
Of course you don’t have Mark Kiger’s contact info. You should be so lucky. Although you probably stood around and waited for hours in hopes of an autograph when he played for the Canadians. Funny how you jump off the bandwagon as soon as he gets traded by the A’s because he was worth so much and so marketable to them at a point of need. We can only hope to get him back one day!
Stick to blogging, buddy, and keep shouting from your soapbox… you are quite cut out for it (bad facts, bandwagoning, insulting professional athletes without showing your face).
Truth is, in the next year or two, you’ll be typing away to fewer and fewer readers while Kiger is in the Big Leagues somewhere laughing his ass off and playing for his real fans.
And in regards to his wife who obviously supports him– we should all be so lucky.
Hey Oz,
I’m a huge baseball fanatic and I’m also a pretty big fan of Notes From the Nat. Your articles always interest me (especially this last one:)).
I actually live in binghamton, NY which is kind of funny because that’s where the Mets play. I guess that’s what made me feel drawn to commenting.
Anyways, I’ve actually caught a few BMets games and that Mark guys seems like a pretty chill guy. I was impressed with his playing techniques. I suppose that is the main reason why I’m commenting. I don’t know if you know Mark and his wife from prior engagements or if there is any history behind it all? I can just tell they are not on your “good side” right now and I was unsure why you felt a hard spot towards Mark??
Anyways, good luck to you and this sticky situation! Hope all goes well!
Okay,
I have been following this for a couple of hours or so, dude, opinions are like assholes everyone has one, just remember when you say something you can’t take it back, and there is enough baggage in the world already
Be nice!!
An untruth was written. The untruth made Kiger look bad. It’s interesting how defensive you are when things are said about you that don’t set well, yet you expect others to sit back and do nothing. I am not involved in minor league baseball, but have been heavily involved in minor league hockey and I understand all the crap (aka - rumors) that float around that can hurt someone’s career. You should only be so lucky to have someone to stand up for you when/if it happens to you.
Now turn the tables and think about how you would react. At the moment you sound like a heck of a candidate for upper management of our hockey team. Oh, wait. Their lies of this caliber just made them lose their lease with the city for the hockey arena. Karma has a nice aim when it’s biting someone in the butt.
My god, what a bunch of pathetic losers LOL, I seriously cannot believe how pathetic this chick’s blog is, she comes across like an alcoholic, out of control psycho, and her “talented” husband just made the worst career decision of his life. He’ll be out of ball in 2 years time and working at Mcdonalds. Good luck Mark, I’ll bet you she’ll be hanging on another pro ballplayers jock as soon as you wash out. Mark my words.
All this because someone made a correction to one of your posts that’s no more offensive than a newspaper’s “Letter to the Editor” requesting a correction?
Someone is *obviously* insecure about their career.
& it’s not mark.
Whee! Addressing those commenters who require it:
Disappointed said: "Wow, “Ozâ€â€¦ I can’t believe how brave you are: attacking a professional athlete with remarks regarding his abilities, skills, playing history, and not to mention his own family. And all while hiding behind a website which never mentions your own name, contact information, or even any credentials."
In response: Oh please, I’m supposed to take the crap on Ms Kiger’s blog about me without returning the favor in kind? They set the table, I served the main course.
You wanna correct my story? So be it, but when you start on about "assholes" and "bastards", the rules of engagement are no longer about the original story.
Disappointed again: "Note: It should be mentioned here that the ONLY way she had of contacting you was through a comment to your original blog as no email or other contact info is posted by you for any of your readers. REAL brave, dude."
Uh-huh. When she posts her phone number on her blog, I’ll post my number on mine.
Interesting, however, that you posted this comment using a pseudonym. "Real brave, dude."
Oakasfan2 said: "Of course you don’t have Mark Kiger’s contact info. You should be so lucky. Although you probably stood around and waited for hours in hopes of an autograph when he played for the Canadians."
Actually, no, I wasn’t living in Vancouver back when he played for the Canadians, though I have it on good authority from people who were here at the time that Kiger, when in Vancouver, was renowned as a very reluctant autograph signer.
Oakasfans2 still: "Funny how you jump off the bandwagon as soon as he gets traded by the A’s because he was worth so much and so marketable to them at a point of need. We can only hope to get him back one day!"
You clearly don’t read very well. He was released by the A’s, not traded. That’s kind of well-established at this point. I guess you should check your facts, huh?
"Truth is, in the next year or two, you’ll be typing away to fewer and fewer readers while Kiger is in the Big Leagues somewhere laughing his ass off and playing for his real fans."
Yeah, Kiger’s on the fast track for the Majors. He just has to beat out Fernando Tatis and David Wright and he’ll be totally in the bigs and laughing. Until then, he’s earning less than your average insurance salesman and needing to hit some homeruns to avoid being cut after the draft happens.
Good luck, Mark!
Tom Fisher said: "Anyways, I’ve actually caught a few BMets games and that Mark guys seems like a pretty chill guy. I was impressed with his playing techniques. I suppose that is the main reason why I’m commenting. I don’t know if you know Mark and his wife from prior engagements or if there is any history behind it all? I can just tell they are not on your “good side†right now and I was unsure why you felt a hard spot towards Mark?? Anyways, good luck to you and this sticky situation! Hope all goes well!
Thanks Tom. I actually didn’t have any previous issues with Kiger before this began. I mentioned in the original piece that I thought he could play and hoped someone would give him another shot.
My only beef with the Kigers is that they seem to be under the impression that, because Mark is an athlete, that somehow that means I’m supposed to bow and scrape and do what he wants, and if I don’t suck up sufficiently, then I’m an "asshole" and "bastard" as a result.
These two need to grow up, understand that life as a pro athlete means you’re under the microscope 24/7, and that the people who pay money to go see him play earn the right to ridicule them in any way, shape or form they so choose, by virtue of the fact that we make their paycheck possible.
As a rule, I generally do a fair amount of mocking on this blog, and I’m not about to stop doing so just because Miss Shark Club 1997 might start flicking her hair and pffting over it, because the other side of the mocking coin is that I also provide an outlet to HELP those same players by trumpeting it when they do something great.
Case in point: if you do a search for "Mark Kiger released" on Google, the first search result is this blog. If you search for just the name "Mark Kiger", it comes up #13 (and is rapidly moving up the more people link to this post - whee!). Now, if the Kigers hadn’t been dinks about the original post (and the follow-up, and their comments on their blog), they might have been smart enough to say, "Hey, we’d be happy to do an interview about the situation", and I would have said "for sure!" and then I could have made the first mention of Kiger on Google a nice big article all about how much he loved the A’s and we all loved him and wish him well and blah blah.
Instead, he got this.
Personally, I love it. The longer this goes, the better it is for my blog, but I do feel sorry for Kiger, because I don’t think he and the missus really thought through what would come out of their public belligerence.
And, really, if they were to ask me to end it, I’d end it, because I’ve been close enough to minor league ballplayers to understand how negatively something like this can affect a guy’s career.
But like I said before, they set the table, and I’ll dine on this for a long time if they want to keep feeding it.
Kelly Matson said: "Okay, I have been following this for a couple of hours or so, dude, opinions are like assholes everyone has one, just remember when you say something you can’t take it back, and there is enough baggage in the world already."
True dat, Kelly. But, you see, the thing here is that I sat on my blog post for 24 hours before I sent it, and I tweaked it in the light of morning, and I removed some stuff that wouldn’t have been very mature, and added some clarifications… so when I posted what I posted, it was word for word exactly what I wanted to post.
I’m not sure the Kiger’s put that same amount of thought into things. (shrug)
DLM said: Some internal narration about hockey that he probably didn’t mean to say out loud…
Okay dude, I’ll bite on your whole ‘untruth’ business. We’ve established that the ‘untruth’ was based on the fact that all anyone sees when a minor league player is released is "[player name] was released by [team name]."
And we’ve established that there was more to this case.
But we’ve also established that, really, it just doesn’t matter. Kiger already had another team lined up (and hundreds knocking on his door, if you believe his wife), so what does he care if I didn’t get the nuance down?
And really, seriously now, he’s a 27-year-old AA baller - do you really expect me to launch a serious journalistic investigation to get to the bottom of why he was released?
Dudes like him are let go every second day. The official line is they are "released". If they have a good excuse as to why they were released, that’s really up to them to publicize, not for me to go all Sherlock Holmes in pursuit of the truth.
And not for nothing, but if you asked every minor leaguer that gets released why they were released, they’d all give you some bullshit tale about how the club did them wrong, the execs have their heads up their asses, they have more talent than players X, Y and Z, etc.
Or they’d say "I sucked and they let me go."
Either way, neither option makes for great reading.
Anyways, hello and welcome to all our new readers, especially those coming from Ms Kiger’s MySpace page. We salute you, kids!
Geez, what on earth were those two thinking? Does Kiger really think a major leaguer acts like that?
The original story was more than anyone else wrote about his career when he got cut, I’ll bet. He should have been thankful you took the time to write it.
Bonus babies.
Anna: There’s a way to inform someone that a detail is wrong, and there’s a way to do it sounding like an asshole. She sounded like an asshole.
Obviously, in her life, nothing is more important than the most minute details of her husband’s existence. But for the rest of us, who cares?
Have another drink, honey.
well, well, well………just so you know, i don’t care, my myspace is merely a creative extension. those who know me personally, know that all your defamations of me to be untrue.
my myspace identity is a character! “bedhead barbie”?! come on, “Oz”. good for you for attacking my pen name! *golf clap*
this is all quite funny to me now……cheers, dude!
i actually expected you to ignore my original “correcting comment” or to change your info, but you certainly served up quite the meal! yum yum!
this hair pulling, poop slinging, playground fight is getting to be too much!
i’m personally tired of it.
we both are entitled to our opinion…… my blog is to entertain and to make people laugh, you took it wrong (actually i never thought you’d find it) and you decided to slander….*golf clap, hair flip, pppffffftttt*
good night! and your welcome for all the new readers, dito to you!!
love,
“the alcoholic, needs to go to rehab, jock-strap hangin’, cleat-chaser”
xoxoxoxoxoxox
You know if you weren’t such an ignorant fuckwad, you could see that YOU were wrong in the beginning. Instead of using the information given to correct your innacurate blog (which you shouldn’t have written about someone if you don’t have your facts straight to begin with), you decided to turn it into slanderfest 07′. Nice job. Therefore justification would prevail to marks wife for calling you all the lovely names she did, because ALL of them fit you to the teeth, and I could add a few more! Do yourself and everyone else a favor, Find a gun, and a bullet, put the barrel against your head, and squeeze the trigger. You’re a waste of precious air……dumbass.
Ladies and gentlemen, the post above is all the evidence you’ll ever need to prove that MySpace should be shut down.
Well done, Jon. Truly raising the level of discourse to a new high. Let me guess, Kiger let’s you carry his jockstrap after BP? Does he let you clean his pool? Maybe he sends you out for beer?
Pro athletes and lingerie models and the guys that live to hang out with them - truly a wicked smart grouping.
In all fairness it sounds to me like his wife was really only trying to correct your inaccurate information. I don’t know anyone who would be cool with someone going around telling everyone they had been fired from any job when the truth was that person quit.
Look at it this way. Lets say you were arrested and had to spend the week in jail and I went and wrote a blog or whatever saying that during said week you were forced to wear a bow in your hair and call some dude Daddy. Youd be unhappy what that and I am sure shot me an email correcting me. Im pretty sure thats where she was coming from. I dont see anywhere in her response to your first post where was was disrespectful of you. Sounds like you got your feelings hurt when felt the need to seek out her MySpace page.
Mark said: i have more skills then some players in the big leagues, but they’re up in the "Bigs" and I’m not, that’s just the way it is.
You (who ever you are) said: Yeah dude, David Wright (who is two years younger than you, natch) is just cruising on reputation at this point, isn’t he? Carlos Delgado - what has HE ever done? Endy who? What sort of name is LoDuca anyway?
I will admit you’re more talented than Chan Ho Park, but honestly, that’s like saying you’re funnier than Carrot Top, and not for nothing, but I kinda doubt you’re going to be welcomed with open arms by anyone at the Mets if you’re going around posting on blogs that you’re better than them.
Grow up buddy he never called anyone by name. What he says is true in any profession there will always be someone somewhere in a position of power that has 5, 10, 20 people working below them that can do their job better than they can.
One final question now that you saw fit to post a picture of his wife which you took from her MySpace page will you be man enough to post a picture of yourself?
That picture was of Kiger’s wife?
I thought it was some random drunk broad Oz was using for illustration.
good one “harold”. you’re right! i am some drunk broad.
I have nothing to say, other than I remember Kiger being the first one
into the shower after each C’s game, while his teammates were signing
autographs.
Oh, and this, for a certain somebody .
Geez, you guys are really swinging hard with the ugly stick, aren’t you?
People saying I should shoot myself in the head, others calling folks drunken broads, and my personal favorite, the Barbie herself coming here to post about how I must have just taken everything the wrong way and how she’s oh so tired of it all (just hours after posting the following on her supposedly private MySpace page):
i guess he had some time on his hands last night and found me on myspace and at 1am wrote a slanderous blog about me and lil’ about mark. i’ll post the link so you can check it all out…..my myspace page/blog is an artistic expression of me and creative extension of my writting [sic]. i’m not scared of opening my big fat mouth (i’m used to getting in trouble for that) but just did not expect to be on the receiving end of some assholes (are you still offended “Oz”?) offensive rambling in his sports blog!
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“Oz the Facker, the asshole, the ass-wipe, the bastard” (hahaha! he hates when i call him that)…
Wow. Talk about making a bad situation worse. So now, why don’t you go ahead and tell me again, Barbie, how I took it all the wrong way?
And hey, since I actually make a living “writting”, why don’t you send me some of your “writting” samples and I’ll see if I can get you started in the business?
Can I get a price check on aisle 3? 450 gram pack of Instant Clue…
oz, enough is enough. everybody is a critic and i know this. From the time you start playing ball there is always somebody watching and having an opinion. You’ve obviously never seen me play but its not about baseball anymore. DEFAMATION OF CHARACTER, SLANDER are 2 things that are not to be taken lightly. You have put my wifes myspace page on this page of which has pictures of me, her, and MOST IMPORTANTLY my daughter. This goes beyond fun and games. It is about to take a turn to a point where there will be no returning. I never meant to be rude or discourteous to you and your writing, but simply wanted to give a helping hand to your writing. A good writer is not stubborn and close-minded so i thought you might appreciate the help. obviously not but more importantly it would be in everybody’s best interest for you to extract my wifes pictures and page in which holds the two most important people in my life. If you want to criticize me as a ballplayer than write on but the slander and defamation of character needs to stop!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Before she turned her page private, here’s what barbies blog said.
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wow! where do i start???? this has never happened to me before so i’m a lil’ upset. and i’m being serious. this all pertains to my previous blog if you didn’t read that blog, click here
this all started off as an innocent correction of a “gentleman’s” article/blog (apparently the words i used to describe him have offended him). i’m not gonna re-explain the whole thing, because i’m hoping you’ve already read my previous blog or you clicked on the link above. it has now turned into an all out “war” on his part, he’s calling it: “KigerGate”.
i guess he had some time on his hands last night and found me on myspace and at 1am wrote a slanderous blog about me and lil’ about mark. i’ll post the link so you can check it all out…..my myspace page/blog is an artistic expression of me and creative extension of my writting. i’m not scared of opening my big fat mouth (i’m used to getting in trouble for that) but just did not expect to be on the receiving end of some assholes (are you still offended “Oz”?) offensive rambling in his sports blog!
one of my girlfriends saw his latest rant and called me and told me to read it. she even left him some politely written comments to him telling him that i was merely correcting him and that mark and i did not deserve the latest attack. he deleted them!!! coward!!! and he won’t contact us…. he has both our email addresses and has had them since this whole fiasco started. “Oz the Facker, the asshole, the ass-wipe, the bastard” (hahaha! he hates when i call him that) doesn’t even have the courage to post any of his contact info or his real name!
anyways, here ya go…..this is his slanderous 5-minutes of fame in my life:
read this taint’s rant!
it’s stormin’ out….. which will match mark’s mood when he get’s home from his game tonight and finds out what this guy wrote about me.
uggghh! i need a drink…….as “Oz” would say…”the punch line speaks for itself”.
“i need to go to rehab” ‘cuz all the songs i post on my page are the soundtrack to my life…i didn’t know that if you like a song, the lyrics have to speak true to what’s happening in your life?! if that was the case, we’d all be drunks, cheaters, killers, crooks, travelin’ men, man-eaters, gypys tramps n’ thieves, peggy-sue’s, yellow submarines, sunshine on my fackin’ shoulders purple people eaters!
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Hell of a writter. ha!
Hi Mark,
I appreciate where you’re coming from, as I know you’re in a particularly indelicate situation right now, but two things in regards to your request above.
First, your wife has made her MySpace page private, so linking to it only takes a person to a message that she has a “stalker who likes to write about me”. Since I consider that a bullshit thing to say, I’m going to keep on linking to it for now.
Second, if you don’t want pictures of your wife online, isn’t the best course to tell her not to put them online? And maybe tell her not to get into blog wars with someone who has a nice big forum with which to dish out some public humiliation?
I’ll do you a deal, Mark. When your wife removes references to me from her blog and makes it public so I can see it all nice and clean, I’ll go ahead and take down her picture, and remove the links to her site.
But just so we’re clear, I WON’T, under any circumstances, remove this blog entry.
From that point on, I’ll assume that you’ve made it clear to her that she’s not helping you by going on with this sort of thing, and we can all get on with our lives. Of course, if that’s not good enough for you, then I recommend you go ahead and talk to a lawyer and we can address things that way.
Because really, as an Oakland fan dealing with a player in the Mets system, I’m in no hurry to get out of your head.
Go A’s.
All I gotta say is, wait till the NY media gets a wiff of this asshole and his bimbo wife and her myspace page. What are you gonna do when the NY Daily News reports that your man was released next time? Do you really think anyone cares enough about a 27yr old AA ballplayer to find out if he “quit” or was “released?” I swear, if you can’t handle an innocent blogger making a simple mix up and then complimenting your man, what are you gonna do on the off-chance he actually DOES make it to the majors and you have 100 blogs, several major metropolitan newspapers, sports talk radio and 11 million fans slamming your husband when he goes on a cold streak? Have you even thought about that?
you know what!? this was all just in fun…yeah i was miffed at your reply today, hence my reply. tit for tat, right? but now, you are just being down right malicious! this was all in fun and i was taking it that way, until tonight. i’m beyond upset and less than impressed with the recent goings-ons in the last hour or two from you. my husband has asked and now i have asked you. too far! thank you. i appreciate that you’re a writer, i enjoy reading blogs and thought by my original involvement in your “original blog” would spark nothing if anything.
i’ll take my blogs down if you retract everything that has been posted in response to the “Mark Kiger is the greatest ball player to have ever lived and he’s totally hot and I want to have his babies.
May 27, 2007 @ 12:47 am by Oz ” blog.
i will make sure that all of the stuff written about you is erased and i would expect you to do the same thing. I don’t know how something so innocent was turned into a complete disaster. I appreciate your cooperation in erasing all this stuff as i am sure you appreciate all of your stuff is erased. give me some peace of mind by erasing our personal life from your blog.
Yo know, I kinda feel sorry for Kiger. Not very much, because he was totally lying above when he said he was “simply wanted to give a helping hand to your writing”. his wife’s own blog said the two of them sat together giggling, coming up with thier comments to Oz.
But I feel sorry for him because he just doesn’t seem to get how this cuold blow up in his face and really mess up his career. I mean his friend made what is essentially a death threat to Oz in the comments here. Do you think that wouldn’t make the newspapers if he sent out a press release?
I actually think he’s more mad at his wife than Oz because she could have left it alone so many times and she just keep[s making it worse.
andre, i made it to the majors….
Mark, don’t you realize it was YOUR WIFE that put YOUR PERSONAL LIFE on the internet?
Long Time Cs Fan, love my wife, i’m not mad at her by any means. I get criticized by thousands of people every night so i’m used to it. If i was not used to criticism than i would have found a small hole and crawled into it a long time ago. My wife loves me and is my biggest supporter and she really takes it to heart when she sees stuff written about me. I can’t be mad for someone loving me and i hope you would do the same.
Mark, Sue, I don’t think you guys understand that I’m a lot less desperate to get myself off your blog than you guys are to get off mine, so your counter-offer of “we’ll take you off ours if you take us off yours” is a bit of a non-starter.
I made a good faith offer to address your concerns, and now you want to expand the parameters? Sorry, but I’m not in a position where I feel I need to negotiate the death of my piece with you. I worked hard on the piece, and it’s drawing a lot of traffic, so it’s staying whether that’s convenient for you or not.
You wanna leave the insults directed at me on your blog? Go for it, I’m happy to see them stay there and leave this piece to stand as is.
However, if you would like me to lose the pictures of Sue and the links to her site (as you requested earlier), I’m prepared to do that as a sign of good faith - if you delete all mentions of me on her blog, and leave them deleted.
That’s the offer. And it’s as good as it’s going to get.
Hope you understand.
Wow. We’ve gone back to junior high. Oz, grow up. Your power play here on the Internet does nothing but make a person question little-man-syndrome. Do you really believe you have the credibility to critique others’ writings or compositions? You don’t even have the professionalism to shut the he** up.
Keep mouthing. You’ll be in the same boat before long.
Mark: If we want to be honest about it, this guy played longer in the majors than you did.
OK, I apologize. I posted my last response before I saw your response.
But really, for all parties involved, this needs to stop. It is not benefitting anyone.
DLW: I agree. It needed to stop a few days ago, when I had considered the issue dead and buried for months.
Alas.
I will make sure your links are off her page and you can keep your piece although you need to take some of the stuff off about what you think i said. You “quoted” me and then cut and pasted my statement in order to effectively make me look bad but in truth if you posted the actual paragraph that i wrote you would see that it was harmless and in no way shape or form ever centered in on a team or even specific athlete. Post the statement in full and let people derive what they want from it. so whatever you think you need to do to be successful you are free to do but the pictures and her myspace need to be taken off immediately.
I am a baseball fan from Modesto, where Mark played and where he married Sue. I like Mark and was excited that he made MAJOR LEAGUE HISTORY by making his Big League Debut when he did. He is a good guy and a great ballplayer. Sue is a good woman, a good wife and a good mother. She loves her husband and her daughter and wants what is best for them.
That being said, all parties should grow up already. Being a “public figure” means people are allowed to make comments about you and there is nothing you can do about it. Being a Blog Writer (both Sue & “Oz”) means people will reply to the opinions you have written in your blog whether you like their opinions or not.
The original blog that was posted was not flattering and Sue had a right to be a little upset about it. Should she have made any comment? Probably not, but she did, so lets move on. Her comment was not offensive. What she wrote in her MySpace Blog was probably supposed to be private, but you have made it very public. This pissing match has got to stop. You are all adults, I assume, so start acting like it.
I implore “Oz” to remove any links to Sue’s MySpace from this Blog. Go ahead and leave the comments, if you think it is necessary, but remove the links so they can move on. Keep in mind they have a young daughter that doesn’t need this. She will have enough attention already.
Modesto: Not to sound too repetitious, but the MySpace page is currently listed as private, so no information can be seen on it, private, personal or otherwise.
In addition, if the intention was for that page to be not for public consumption, then perhaps it shouldn’t have been open to anyone with access to a web browser and Google in the first place.
I’m still baffled by this contention that the original post was somehow nasty or mean. Good lord, if that’s considered the level of ‘mean’ nowadays, then most of sports journalism qualifies.
wrong, oz, you still have not removed the cached link on the bottom of this article/blog.
And you still haven’t demonstrated that your wife’s blog has been corrected.
Happy to play, but I’m not working on trust here.
Oh, BTW, I just thought of something else that you might like - I’ll go a step further and clean up/delete some of the comments here as well, if you want to go into more detail about those many promises Oakland broke to you.
I get something, you get something… what do you say?
OZ:
I never said the original post was mean. I said, and I quote, “The original blog that was posted was not flattering.” Where does that say I thought it was mean???
This is exactly why you are in a flame war. Mark is right, you do misquote and twist things others post to make your point.
She had a right to be upset because she thinks her husband is the best ballplayer ever, which is exactly what she should think and what all of the other baseball wifes think about their husbands. It is called support.
Wow so some unknown loser who is hiding behind his computer and a fake name feels all big and bad and is making demands. Why are you so concerned with what this chick has on her blog? Doesnt she have a right to her opinion? In my opinion you are a fucktard. What you wrote was not an opinion you wrote it as fact. Your facts were wrong and someone corrected them. I think the fact that it was the players wife pissed you off. I mean the nerve of her, right? Im guessing thats how you felt. You were so pissed that you hunted her down on MySpace to dig up a little dirt. Right? To say you have the advantage is an over statement considering they dont have access to your real name or even a picture of you. You are a cowardly attention whore. These things have a way of working their way back to you and biting you in the butt.
Modesto: Others have said the original post was mean. Or, if you want to be specific, “It felt like you were trying to belittle me as a professional player.” And of course we’ve also had one charmer who felt it was so bad I should shoot myself in the head.
Unflattering, mean, belittling, reason for suicide - whatever you want to call it, if you’re going to be legitimately fair-minded, I’ll admit the post wasn’t ‘flattering’, but you’d have to say it wasn’t derogatory.
I’ve had players (and relatives of players) clarify things before on this blog, giving relevant background on a story that didn’t tell the entire tale for whatever reason (generally due to lack of access), and each time it has been done, it has been done with good grace and the acknowledgement that, in reality, we’re all here for the same reasons - to talk up the Oakland minor league players, past and present.
Sue Kiger didn’t just correct something that was wrong, she got snippy about it - and did so despite several comments prior to hers (including one from me) that celebrated the fact that Mark had caught on elsewhere.
First there was snippy, and then there was abusive. So I make no apologies for the fact that, right now, she’s unhappy with where it has gone. If a ballplayer and his wife want to engage in silly behavior in public, well that’s the kind of thing I’d be a fool to shy away from.
Rachel: You say I’m a ‘fucktard’? An ‘attention whore’? Well, let’s just ignore your childish insults (and really, if fucktard is the best you can do, I’d ask for my money back on that Insulting Strangers 101 course you took), and get to your main accusation - that I went ‘hunting’ for Sue Kiger.
I didn’t. You see, when you run a website that isn’t designed for 12-year-olds (EG: anything that doesn’t include the word MySpace in the title), you get access to all sorts of funky server tools. Some of them count your visitors. Some of them block spam. Others tell you who is looking at your website, and where they came from.
So when I saw a new site on that referrer list, I went to look at what it was, and why they were linking to me, and lo and behold, I’m the star of the show.
I know in Sue Kiger’s world, it’s all about her and I’m crazily stalking her and have nothing but her in my life, but in reality nobody actually cares too much about her ‘creative outlet’, unless your name is being written on it alongside things like “asshole” and “bastard.”
As for my making ‘demands’, I make no such thing. I’m happy for the website to stay as it is forever, because just between you and me, if the New York press cottons on to this little misadventure, my traffic will go through the roof, my ad revenue will jump, and how it affects the Kiger’s… well, that’ll be their problem, not mine. And they know it.
However, since I’m a genuinely nice guy, I’m happy to work with them to minimize the damage… if they meet my price. And frankly, I think it’s a pretty fair price, considering I’d do a lot better financially to leave things as they stand.
Either way, the Fucktardâ„¢ owns this site, so he decides what stays and goes. The only question is, how bad do they want me to do them a favor?
Hmm… comments from Kiger-pals look to have ceased, so I guess that indicates the ‘other blog’ is cleaned up or offline.
And so, true to my word, I’ll remove the cached site link and the picture.
Great, Im glad we both agree that you are indeed a fucktard. Just so you know I dont know these people. Ive never even heard of this dude till I read your thing above. Im just a fan of baseball who was surfing the net and looking at baseball sites. By law Im a child so I am allowed to act childish, what are you like 40 whats your excuse? Ill let you get back to writing blogs that no one comments to. You stay sweet and have a nice summer.
Yeah, you’re a baseball fan… let me guess - you like the Yankees, right?
How do I know? Well, first of all you’re clearly under 15 (even if only intellectually), you obviously trawl MySpace looking at ballplayers, and the level of your conversation is about that which you’d expect from any Yankees fan.
Next you’ll be calling me a ‘fag’ and trying to convince me that I’m just jealous of Jeter’s ass or something, and the circle will be complete.
But hey, you have a great summer too - I hear there’s a new line of Bratz accessories out there - I’m sure it’ll be ‘awesome’.
To revoke the old internet adage, “Arguing on the internet is like running in the Special Olympics, even if you win, you’re still retarded.”
True, but I’m the best retard around! All the others are fAkeRz!
Oz,
Sue’s comments and approach were both out of line. You have every reason to ac the way you did, and I probably would have gone further. Really, if you look at Sue’s MySpace page she seems pretty superficial and immature. Her list of people she’s like to meet was a bunch of bleach-blonde FHM models and the like. If I did not know she was a ballplayer’s wife and a mother, I would have guessed she was a college party girl, and perhaps that was her previous occupation. But she does seem par for the athlete’s-wives course. Give them well deserved hell.
Hi There, thought I’d throw in a bit of a comment on this from the perspective of an A’s fan in New Zealand (look it up if you have to).
I always sit back and smile everytime I hear people getting on their high horse regarding inaccuracies in media articles. Anybody who relies on the media publishing the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, is living in a world completely different to the one that I live in. The way I see it, the media is there to publish something as close as possible to factual in a way that will entertain/stimulate/educate their target audience. The number one purpose of almost every form of media is profit, the mighty dollar rules.
I love reading everything I possibly can on the A’s because I can’t get into any water cooler discussions on whats happening with the team or their minor league system (half of NZ doesn’t realise there’s sports other than Rugby). If I assumed that everything I read was gospel then our starting rotation would include Pelfry (sp?), and our offense would be anchored by Milledge (sp?), and Harden would be on the DL for the Mets …. how many times did I read that Beane had finally “pulled the trigger” on this trade?!?
I’ve certainly got some sympathy for the Kigers on this, mainly because I wouldn’t think that a AA grafter (even one with major league skills) gets paid enough to warrant being a pro sportsman under piblic scrutiny.
However I do have a few questions to ask the people who have taken the time to abuse Oz (btw does Oz have anything to do with Australia - which happens to be a country settled by criminals).
- Do you think that Mrs Armstrong writes in to educate anyone who has ever made the claim that Lance has taken drugs?
- Do you think that Mrs Giambi has employed an entire PR team to put right all of the “false” stories about her husband?
- Do you think that Mrs Oz is currently putting on the headgear and mouthguard and getting ready to go into battle for her man ?(I assume that you’re a man Oz)
- Are you insecure enough to really worry about what others are saying about you, and if so, who is the one with the problem?
- How the hell can you create a character called Bedhead Barbie (or whatever it was) and not make the entire website fiction, why confuse it with your real life ….. unless maybe there’s some unresolved issues stemming from your next door neigbour having more toys than you when you were growing up?
- Why would you be so keen to point out to everyone that you’re a quitter? Isn’t that the essence of this whole spat, “I was not released, I’m a quitter!!”
- Has this article created interest? If you agree that it has then realise that interest = revenue, revenue = good job Oz
Anyhow ….. thanks for the laugh during what has been a particularly boring day at work.
Roy A.
Dropping in courtesey of a link to an SF Bay area sports board. Don’t follow this Blog. Don’t follow the A’s close enough to know about Mark Kiger. Here’s the thing that get’s me. A guy works his butt off and creates a very good Blog, comprehensive, full of good content, something any AA team and it’s players should be thrilled to have. He posts an article that, by and large is accurate and wishes the player well. The players wife shows up FIVE MONTHS LATER to correct a MINOR point???????? Why on earth would anyone do that?
She didn’t do it in a polite way, it was snippy. She could have said, “I appreciate your interest. There’s a little more to the story, and here it is.” Then she goes on to post vile things on her inane MySpace page. And they have the nerve to get bent out of shape when they get called on it and, *gasp*, stuff that this woman has posted on a publicly available page is now seen by people who visit this Blog.
Glad this guy is out of the A’s system. For their sakes, I hope they get out of the NY system. If they can’t handle a minor goof in a blog article, how in the world do they react to NY sports radio.
ps. Vancouver rocks. Had the pleasure of attending SFU and living in and around Vancouver for six years. Did make it to a couple of games at Nat Bailey Stadium. Wonderful city, and thank you Canada for my education.
I am privileged enough to call Sue Kiger my friend and have been following Kigergate with a combination of shock and disgust.
I don’t think it can be denied that both sides have behaved in a less than perfect manner. I didn’t construe Sue’s comments to you as being snippy, but that is likely due to an understandable bias on my part.
I will say that I feel YOUR behaviour has been unprofessional in the extreme. Is it or is it not your responsibility to wield your pen with a certain amount of maturity and professionalism? Posting her MySpace link (which I see is STILL available to anyone who comes across your blog) and belittling her as a woman and mother is not acceptable, nor is it the sort of response that assures your readers that your opinions are based upon fact and worth considering.
Please respect that this is in no way an attack, merely an observation. Unlike others, I don’t find it necessary to spew vile insults in order to get my point across. Hopefully I can be some sort of example for you and your groupies; it’s fairly obvious that all of you very much need one.
You know, if one doesn’t want people seeing their private thoughts, pictures and, oh, resume details, it doesn’t take a genius to understand that you should maybe not put them all on a publicly accessible website.
I was asked to take down the link to her site, and since it’s been switched to ‘private’, the only link that actually goes anywhere is the Google cache link, which I duly removed, along with her ‘falling ass backwards over the couch’ picture. So my job is done.
But for the record, Google also links to your buddy’s MySpace page. You gonna email them a complaint too, or do you maybe now comprehend that the internet isn’t the pages of your personal diary?
Look guys, it is common knowledge that if you have anything you want to keep private, DO NOT POST IT ON THE INTERNET! Even if you remove it right away, chances are that someone or something, somewhere has seen it, saved it, and will spew that info far and wide. If you post a picture of yourself, it will be everywhere, like it or not. And if it is an amsuing or funny picture? It sure as hell will find its way around the web.
In fact, I would not be supprised to find her pic end up being a Macro on 4chan or something by years end.
Remember, Anonymous is a cruel, heartless, insensitive bastard, and Anonymous does not forgive.
Hey Everyone. I too am a Pro Sports players wife. I won’t mention his name but he plays for an NHL team. He Would Not be happy if I decided to act out, not only, as an immature, rude “wife” but someone who got involved in these verbal online “blogs” or disputes. Being the wife of a player you are next to your husband to Support him not to make him look like an unstable Ass because you can’t keep your Bimbo mouth shut. Teams don’t want the BS or the publicity because of someones mouthy egotistical wife. Hey Sue just like your mama should have taught you keep your mouth shut, with that obnoxious mouth as big as yours, you won’t have to worry about hubby striking out too many times your mouth will strike him out of many team rosters it all in itself.
The only reason I decided to check this blog out is because the wives on our team have been laughing about how stupid she is. Because you know what sue your just screwing it up for your hubby with your BIG UNLADY LIKE MOUTH !! get some class and don’t participate. In other words Turn off your computer, AGAIN DON’T PARTICIPATE your just as bad as the BS’ ers if you DO !!!!!
Mark - The best thing you can do is just do your best. Separate yourself from those who throw words instead of baseballs. To play in just 1 major league game is the stuff of dreams for tens of thousands of young boys and men throughout this land. You did that. Great job. Carry on!
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